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A Fearlessly Fertile Special: A Drama Free Conversation About "High Risk" Pregnancy with Dr. Stu Fischbein, MD

A Fearlessly Fertile Special: A Drama Free Conversation About "High Risk" Pregnancy with Dr. Stu Fischbein, MD

Dr. Stuart Fischbein breaks down the truth about 'high risk' pregnancy labels, revealing how the medical system creates unnecessary fear. He explains that high risk has no official definition and often reflects what makes doctors uncomfortable rather than actual statistical danger.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein, MD· High risk pregnancy myths and natural birth advocacy

Dr. Stuart Fischbein, MD

Obstetrics, home birth, collaborative midwifery practice

Key Insights

  • - High risk pregnancy has no medical definition and reflects physician discomfort rather than statistical risk
  • - VBAC actual risk is 1 in 1200 for serious complications, not the inflated numbers quoted
  • - Continuous fetal monitoring increases c-sections 600% without preventing cerebral palsy
  • - Midwifery care with longer visits creates better outcomes than brief doctor appointments

Actionable Advice

  • + Ask doctors not to use color flow Doppler unless medically indicated at ultrasounds
  • + Find a practitioner who supports vaginal delivery and knows you personally
  • + Question high risk labels and ask for specific statistical risks
  • + Consider midwifery care for preventative relationship-based model

Deconstructing High Risk Pregnancy Labels

Dr. Fischbein reveals that high risk pregnancy has no official medical definition and often reflects what makes doctors uncomfortable rather than actual statistical danger. The American College of OB GYN considers pregnancy itself a high risk condition, creating unnecessary fear in expectant mothers.

The Truth About VBAC and Birth Interventions

Real statistical analysis shows VBAC complications occur in only 1 in 1200 cases, while continuous fetal monitoring has increased cesarean rates 600% without preventing cerebral palsy. These interventions often create more problems than they solve.

Stress, Fear, and Baby Development

When women are labeled high risk, they spend pregnancy in terror, bathing their babies in stress hormones like cortisol instead of beneficial hormones like oxytocin. This fear-based approach may actually harm the developing baby through chronic stress exposure.

Alternative Models of Care

Midwifery care with 30-60 minute visits shows better outcomes than brief doctor appointments, with lower rates of gestational diabetes and hypertension. The relationship-based, preventative model supports healthier pregnancies than fear-based medical management.

Questions This Episode Answers

What does high risk pregnancy actually mean

There is no definition for high risk pregnancy. High risk pregnancy means that something is more likely to happen than not.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein2:55

High risk pregnancy has no official medical definition. It's often what makes your obstetrician uncomfortable rather than actual statistical danger. The American College of OB GYN considers pregnancy itself a high risk condition.

What is the real risk of VBAC complications

The actual risk of any woman going into, deciding to have a VBAC after a single low transverse cesarean of having a ruptured uterus leading to a really bad outcome is one in six times one in two hundred or one in twelve hundred.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein13:08

The actual risk of serious VBAC complications is 1 in 1200, not the inflated numbers doctors often quote. This is the same risk as having a Down syndrome baby at age 25, which we don't consider high risk.

Does being over 35 make pregnancy high risk

Just because you're over thirty five does not make you high risk. Some people with who are over thirty five become high risk.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein10:24

Being over 35 doesn't automatically make you high risk. You have a higher chance of developing complications, but you're not high risk until something actually develops. The label creates unnecessary fear and stress.

Is continuous fetal monitoring necessary during labor

After more than fifty years of continuous fetal monitoring, we have proven that, we cannot prevent cerebral palsy. We have increased the cesarean section rate by probably six hundred percent.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein29:08

Continuous fetal monitoring has no proven benefit and increases cesarean rates by 600%. After 50+ years of use, it hasn't prevented cerebral palsy but has led to millions of unnecessary interventions.

What's the difference between midwife and doctor prenatal care

If you take a similar cohort of women and you give them prenatal care with a midwife, where their prenatal visits are thirty to sixty minutes long, you're gonna find that those the women in them in the, midwifery group are probably gonna have less gestational diabetes, less gestational hypertension.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein20:32

Midwifery prenatal visits are 30-60 minutes focused on relationship and prevention, while doctor visits are 6-8 minutes. Similar cohorts show women with midwifery care have less gestational diabetes and hypertension.

How does stress affect pregnancy and baby development

All this time, the woman is growing a baby inside of her, constantly bathing the baby in the stress hormones of cortisol and adrenaline, and not the dopamine and oxytocin that they should be bathing their babies in.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein22:58

When pregnant women are constantly stressed about being 'high risk,' they bathe their babies in stress hormones like cortisol and adrenaline instead of the beneficial dopamine and oxytocin needed for healthy development.

How to Challenge High Risk Pregnancy Labels

Steps to advocate for yourself when given a high risk pregnancy diagnosis

  1. 1

    Ask for specific statistics

    Request the actual numerical risk, not relative risk comparisons. Ask what the baseline risk is and how much your specific situation increases it.

  2. 2

    Question routine interventions

    Ask if procedures like color flow Doppler at ultrasounds are medically indicated for your specific case or just routine protocol.

  3. 3

    Seek relationship-based care

    Find practitioners who offer longer visits and know you personally, whether midwives or supportive physicians.

  4. 4

    Research evidence

    Look up actual studies and outcomes rather than accepting fear-based counseling without question.

  5. 5

    Consider second opinions

    Especially for major decisions like cesarean sections, seek input from practitioners with different philosophies of care.

All Teachings 11

Expert InsightChallenging2:45

High risk pregnancy has no official medical definition and is often what makes your obstetrician uncomfortable rather than actual statistical risk

Dr. Stuart Fischbein explains that the American College of OB GYN considers pregnancy itself a high risk condition, and no single woman makes it through pregnancy without at least one problem on their medical list.

Expert InsightEmpowering12:07

VBAC actual risk is one in twelve hundred for serious complications, not the inflated numbers doctors quote

Dr. Fischbein calculates that scar separation occurs in 1 in 200-333 cases, and only 5-16% of those result in bad outcomes, making the real risk 1 in 1200 - the same as Down syndrome risk at age 25.

Expert InsightEmpowering18:33

Being over 35 or having twins doesn't make you high risk until something actually develops that becomes high risk

Dr. Fischbein explains that labeling women high risk at their first visit based on age or twin pregnancy creates fear and stress hormones that actually harm the developing baby.

Expert InsightChallenging28:58

Continuous fetal monitoring increases cesarean rates by 600% without preventing cerebral palsy

Dr. Fischbein states that after 50 years of continuous fetal monitoring, there is evidence of non-benefit and no prevention of cerebral palsy, yet it remains mandatory in hospitals.

Expert InsightChallenging8:31

Standard of care varies by location and doesn't necessarily mean best care

Dr. Fischbein shares how he was considered below standard of care for doing laparoscopic surgery in one community while it was cutting-edge at Cedars Sinai, showing standard of care is just what the average person in that community does.

Expert InsightEmpowering20:21

Midwifery care with 30-60 minute visits creates healthier outcomes than 6-8 minute doctor visits

Dr. Fischbein explains that similar cohorts of women receiving midwifery care have less gestational diabetes and hypertension than those with brief obstetrician visits due to the preventative relationship-based model.

Expert InsightChallenging22:48

Stress hormones from high risk labeling cross the placenta and affect baby's development

Dr. Fischbein describes how women labeled high risk spend 40 weeks in terror, bathing their babies in cortisol and adrenaline instead of dopamine and oxytocin needed for healthy development.

Expert InsightChallenging16:37

Induction at 39 weeks carries more risk than waiting until 41+ weeks naturally

Dr. Fischbein states that doctors will tell you induction at 39 weeks is safer than waiting until 41 weeks, but this is not supported by evidence and creates unnecessary intervention cascades.

Expert InsightChallenging5:01

Pregnancy is labeled as problem number one on every obstetrician's problem list

Dr. Fischbein reveals that the American College of OB GYN considers pregnancy itself a high risk condition, making it the first problem on every pregnant woman's medical chart.

Expert InsightEmpowering20:10

Home birth studies show better outcomes in similar cohorts than hospital births

Dr. Fischbein mentions his published study on 100 sets of twins born at home and references multiple studies showing better outcomes for home birth in appropriate candidates.

Expert InsightEmpowering27:27

Delayed cord clamping and skin-to-skin are natural mammalian processes hospitals interrupt

Dr. Fischbein explains that no other mammal has their cord cut immediately or baby taken away, and when gorillas have c-sections they don't bond because they didn't go through the natural process.

Episode Tone
6 challenging5 empowering

Key Teachings 11

High risk pregnancy has no official medical definition and is often what makes your obstetrician uncomfortable rather than actual statistical risk

2:45

VBAC actual risk is one in twelve hundred for serious complications, not the inflated numbers doctors quote

12:07

Being over 35 or having twins doesn't make you high risk until something actually develops that becomes high risk

18:33

Continuous fetal monitoring increases cesarean rates by 600% without preventing cerebral palsy

28:58

Standard of care varies by location and doesn't necessarily mean best care

8:31

Midwifery care with 30-60 minute visits creates healthier outcomes than 6-8 minute doctor visits

20:21

Stress hormones from high risk labeling cross the placenta and affect baby's development

22:48

Induction at 39 weeks carries more risk than waiting until 41+ weeks naturally

16:37

Pregnancy is labeled as problem number one on every obstetrician's problem list

5:01

Home birth studies show better outcomes in similar cohorts than hospital births

20:10

Delayed cord clamping and skin-to-skin are natural mammalian processes hospitals interrupt

27:27

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Perspectives 3

High risk pregnancy means something dangerous is more likely to happen

CONSIDER: High risk is not a number and often reflects what makes your doctor uncomfortable rather than actual statistical danger

Being over 35 or having twins automatically makes you high risk

CONSIDER: Age and twin pregnancy create higher chance of developing problems but don't make you high risk until something actually develops

Hospital birth with continuous monitoring is safest

CONSIDER: Continuous fetal monitoring has no proven benefit and increases interventions while midwifery care shows better outcomes

Quotable Moments

High risk is something that makes your obstetrician uncomfortable. Period.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein16:16

The term high risk has no meaning. There is no definition for high risk pregnancy.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein2:55

Pregnancy is a problem because the there are lots of benefits from creating a fear based world in which pregnant women in the Western world have been basted for the last fifty to a hundred years.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein5:57

Nature's design is perfect. It doesn't always work. But the design is perfect.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein27:05

High risk is not a number. And this is something that people don't understand.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein14:34

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