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EP257 Taking the Fear Out of Birth + Baby Making with Dr. Stu Fischbein, MD

EP257 Taking the Fear Out of Birth + Baby Making with Dr. Stu Fischbein, MD

Dr. Stuart Fischbein, MD, shares his journey from medicalized hospital OB to home birth advocate, challenging the fear-based medical model surrounding pregnancy and birth. He discusses why nature doesn't want stressed women to conceive, the problems with age-related fertility statistics, and how women can reclaim their power during pregnancy.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein, MD, MD· Fear-based medical model, natural birth, pregnancy empowerment

Dr. Stuart Fischbein, MD, MD

Obstetrician Gynecologist, Home Birth Advocate

Key Insights

  • - Human fecundity is only 20-25% per cycle even in healthy young women
  • - Stress hormones prevent conception as nature's protective mechanism
  • - Age 35 fertility decline is largely manufactured fear with arbitrary statistics
  • - Half of all US cesarean sections are medically unnecessary
  • - No pregnancy vaccines have been safety tested in randomized controlled trials
  • - Financial incentives drive over-medicalization of normal pregnancy

Actionable Advice

  • + Seek midwifery model of care even if planning hospital birth
  • + Save money for out-of-network providers to get better care
  • + Ask doctors for actual risk numbers, not relative risk terms
  • + Trust your gut feeling about whether providers make you feel better or worse
  • + Don't tell family members your due date to avoid unwanted pressure
  • + Question all routine interventions and ask for evidence of necessity

From Hospital OB to Home Birth Maverick

Dr. Fischbein shares his transformation from a medicalized obstetrician wearing hazmat suits to catch babies to a home birth advocate. His collaboration with midwives achieved a 7% cesarean rate over 15 years, challenging the fear-based medical model that dominates American obstetrics.

The Biology of Fertility and Stress

Understanding why conception isn't immediate even in healthy young women reveals the normalcy of fertility challenges. Dr. Fischbein explains how stress hormones block conception as nature's protective mechanism, and why the age 35 fertility cliff is manufactured fear based on arbitrary statistics.

Reclaiming Your Power in Pregnancy

Practical guidance for choosing healthcare providers who support rather than fear normal pregnancy. Dr. Fischbein exposes the financial incentives driving over-medicalization and provides tools for advocating for evidence-based, woman-centered care that honors the natural birth process.

Questions This Episode Answers

Is it normal not to get pregnant right away when trying to conceive

the fecundity of a college student who's twenty two years old in any given cycle is only the conception rate is only between twenty and twenty five percent

Dr. Stuart Fischbein23:59

Yes, it's completely normal. Even healthy 22-year-old college women only have a 20-25% chance of conception per cycle. After three months of trying, over 50% of the most fertile women still won't be pregnant.

Does stress affect fertility and conception

nature decides that it's not wise for a mammal that's under stress to get pregnant. Because nature thinks that unstressed means famine, predators, forest fire, whatever. And it doesn't think that it means that you've read, you know, you're you're googling doctor Google

Dr. Stuart Fischbein25:52

Yes, stress significantly impacts fertility. Nature doesn't want stressed mammals to get pregnant because stress hormones signal danger. Your body can't distinguish between real threats and modern anxiety from googling fertility statistics.

Is age 35 really a fertility cliff for women

thirty five is a bogus number. Totally. It doesn't mean anything. It's completely was a completely made up number. It had nothing to do with the science behind it

Dr. Stuart Fischbein16:57

No, age 35 is an arbitrary cutoff with no scientific basis. The risk of Down syndrome at 35 is only 1 in 200 (99.5% chance of normal pregnancy). The idea that someone is fine at 34 years 11 months but suddenly high-risk at 35 is medically meaningless.

Are cesarean sections overused in the United States

we've had a five hundred percent increase in the cesarean section rate with no evidence that it's done any benefit

Dr. Stuart Fischbein78:35

Yes, dramatically overused. With a 30% US rate versus WHO recommended 10-15%, approximately 650,000 unnecessary major surgeries are performed on American women annually. Despite a 500% increase in c-sections since 1970, neonatal outcomes haven't improved.

How should women choose their pregnancy care provider

you should treat it like that. And you should not treat it like a medical problem like you would if you had an appendicitis and you'd use your insurance card

Dr. Stuart Fischbein58:17

Treat birth like the life event it is, not a medical problem. Plan it like a wedding - choose based on your values, not insurance cards. Seek providers who make you feel better, not worse, after appointments. Consider midwifery care even for hospital births.

Are vaccines in pregnancy safe and necessary

None of the vaccines that they offer you in pregnancy, whether it be the Tdap, the flu, the COVID, and now the RSV, have ever been tested in a randomized placebo controlled trial for safety. Ever. None of them.

Dr. Stuart Fischbein63:35

Dr. Fischbein states that no vaccines recommended in pregnancy (Tdap, flu, COVID, RSV) have been tested in randomized placebo-controlled trials for safety. At 28 weeks, doctors recommend five simultaneous vaccines, none tested alone or in combination.

How to Choose Empowering Pregnancy Care

Dr. Fischbein's guide for selecting healthcare providers who support rather than fear normal pregnancy

  1. 1

    Assess Post-Appointment Feelings

    After each appointment, sit in your car and honestly evaluate: Do you feel better or worse than when you arrived? Trust this gut check.

  2. 2

    Save for Quality Care

    Start a health savings account early, putting $20-30 monthly toward out-of-network providers who align with your values rather than just using insurance.

  3. 3

    Seek Midwifery Model

    Even if planning hospital birth, get some prenatal care from midwives for proper nutrition, stress reduction, and relationship counseling that volume practices can't provide.

  4. 4

    Demand Actual Risk Numbers

    When providers use terms like 'high risk' or 'more likely,' pin them down for specific percentages rather than accepting vague fear-based language.

  5. 5

    Travel for Better Care

    Don't hesitate to drive 50-100 miles or cross state lines for providers with better reputations and philosophies that match your birth vision.

  6. 6

    Protect Your Mental Space

    Don't share your due date or birth plans with family members who might project their fears onto your pregnancy experience.

All Teachings 9

Expert InsightReframing23:59

Fecundity (conception rate) in healthy 22-year-old college women is only 20-25% per cycle, meaning it's normal not to get pregnant immediately

Dr. Fischbein explains that even in the most fertile group, after 3 months of unprotected sex, over 50% won't be pregnant - nature designed humans differently than rabbits who have 99% fecundity.

Expert InsightReframing25:52

Nature decides it's not wise for a stressed mammal to get pregnant because stress hormones signal famine, predators, or danger - not that you're googling fertility statistics

Dr. Fischbein explains that stress hormones make it less likely to ovulate regularly or prep the uterine lining correctly, as nature can't distinguish between real danger and modern anxiety.

Expert InsightChallenging16:57

The age 35 fertility cutoff is a completely made up number with no scientific basis - someone 34 years 11 months isn't suddenly different at 35

Dr. Fischbein states that at age 35, Down syndrome risk is only 1 in 200 (99.5% chance it won't happen), yet women are labeled 'high risk' based on this arbitrary number.

Expert InsightChallenging18:32

Pregnancy itself is labeled as the number one 'problem' on every medical chart, framing birth as pathology rather than normal biological function

Dr. Fischbein realized after 30+ years that when he asked 'Do you have any other medical problems?' he was implying pregnancy was the first problem - highlighting how medical language shapes perception.

Expert InsightChallenging76:57

Half of all cesarean sections performed in the US are unnecessary - 650,000 unnecessary major surgeries on women annually

Dr. Fischbein cites WHO recommendation of 10-15% c-section rate versus US rate of 30%, meaning with 3.8 million births annually, 650,000 unnecessary surgeries occur yearly.

Expert InsightChallenging63:23

No vaccines recommended in pregnancy (Tdap, flu, COVID, RSV) have ever been tested in randomized placebo-controlled trials for safety

Dr. Fischbein states that at 28 weeks, doctors want to give 5 vaccines simultaneously, none tested alone or in combination, violating the precautionary principle of not testing untested products on pregnant women.

Expert InsightChallenging66:00

Doctor salaries are often based on productivity from the previous year - the more codes filed and procedures ordered, the higher next year's salary

Dr. Fischbein explains that in HMO and corporate medicine, annual salary depends on previous year's billing, creating financial incentives to order more tests and procedures rather than providing reassurance.

Expert InsightReframing39:14

Nature designed women to reproduce in their teens and twenties when life expectancy was 20 years - delaying childbearing defies biological design

Dr. Fischbein explains that girls get periods at 12 because nature still operates on ancient timelines, expecting reproduction at young ages, while modern culture delays childbearing beyond biological prime.

Expert InsightEmpowering10:30

The midwifery model of care focuses on time, listening, and shared decision-making - impossible in volume-based medical practices

Dr. Fischbein's collaborative practice with midwives achieved a 7% c-section rate over 15 years compared to 30% community rates, because midwives had time for proper counseling and education.

Episode Tone
3 reframing5 challenging1 empowering

Key Teachings 9

Fecundity (conception rate) in healthy 22-year-old college women is only 20-25% per cycle, meaning it's normal not to get pregnant immediately

23:59

Nature decides it's not wise for a stressed mammal to get pregnant because stress hormones signal famine, predators, or danger - not that you're googling fertility statistics

25:52

The age 35 fertility cutoff is a completely made up number with no scientific basis - someone 34 years 11 months isn't suddenly different at 35

16:57

Pregnancy itself is labeled as the number one 'problem' on every medical chart, framing birth as pathology rather than normal biological function

18:32

Half of all cesarean sections performed in the US are unnecessary - 650,000 unnecessary major surgeries on women annually

76:57

No vaccines recommended in pregnancy (Tdap, flu, COVID, RSV) have ever been tested in randomized placebo-controlled trials for safety

63:23

Doctor salaries are often based on productivity from the previous year - the more codes filed and procedures ordered, the higher next year's salary

66:00

Nature designed women to reproduce in their teens and twenties when life expectancy was 20 years - delaying childbearing defies biological design

39:14

The midwifery model of care focuses on time, listening, and shared decision-making - impossible in volume-based medical practices

10:30

Perspectives 3

Not getting pregnant immediately means there's a fertility problem requiring medical intervention

CONSIDER: Not conceiving right away is biologically normal - even healthy 22-year-olds have only 20-25% conception rate per cycle

Age 35 marks the beginning of high-risk pregnancy requiring intensive medical management

CONSIDER: The age 35 cutoff is arbitrary and meaningless - Down syndrome risk at 35 is still only 1 in 200 (99.5% normal)

Pregnancy is a medical condition requiring constant monitoring and intervention

CONSIDER: Pregnancy is a normal biological function - 80-85% of pregnant women have nothing wrong and don't need medical expertise in problems

Quotable Moments

If he's such a good hitter, how come he doesn't hit good? And the point I'm making is that if the medical model that everyone is advocating for in the medical world is so good, how come it isn't so good?

Dr. Stuart Fischbein75:04

nature decides that it's not wise for a mammal that's under stress to get pregnant. Because nature thinks that unstressed means famine, predators, forest fire, whatever. And it doesn't think that it means that you've read, you know, you're you're googling doctor Google

Dr. Stuart Fischbein25:52

thirty five is a bogus number. Totally. It doesn't mean anything. It's completely was a completely made up number. It had nothing to do with the science behind it

Dr. Stuart Fischbein16:57

you're the client. You're hiring this person. They work for you

Dr. Stuart Fischbein73:45

if when you go see your infertility specialist or when you go see your OB, when you come out of the office at the end and get back in your car, do you feel better than you felt or do you feel worse than you felt when you got there?

Dr. Stuart Fischbein74:19

there's no money in doing nothing

Dr. Stuart Fischbein71:52

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