Catherine shares her journey from despair to natural conception at 39 after 3 years of trying, including miscarriage, failed IVF cycles with chromosomally abnormal embryos, and endometriosis. Through the Fearlessly Fertile Method, she learned to trust her intuition, set boundaries with her medical team, and transform her mindset from scarcity to empowerment.
CatherineAge 39· natural· BabyBefore
Depressed, crying at kitchen counter, feeling like fertility journey was grief and deep loss, believing she didn't deserve to have everything she wanted
Key Shift
Learned to trust intuition over medical authority, set boundaries, identify saboteurs, and believe she was meant to be a mom
After
Empowered, ready, feeling fully capable and grateful for the journey that made her become who she wanted to be
Catherine shares her three-year journey that began with early pregnancy loss and led to failed IVF cycles with chromosomally abnormal embryos. Despite having endometriosis and what doctors called 'kinked tubes,' she found hope through Rosanne's podcast and discovered the community she desperately needed.
Through the Fearlessly Fertile Method, Catherine identified her core saboteur belief that 'you don't get to have everything you want.' Rooted in childhood trauma from her father's death, she carried an unconscious fear that having a baby would cause something terrible to happen to her otherwise good life.
After her second failed IVF cycle, Catherine made the bold decision to take 4-5 months off for healing. She worked with nutritionist Andy Mayhew on diet and HIIT exercise while shifting from feeling 'behind the clock' to reclaiming her power and trusting divine timing.
When Catherine's IVF doctor dismissed Clear Passage therapy as 'baloney,' she faced a crucial test of trusting her intuition over medical authority. Her decision to follow what felt right for her body, despite professional skepticism, became the final piece of her fertility puzzle.
Just one menstrual cycle after Clear Passage therapy, Catherine conceived naturally at 39 despite years of failed treatments and multiple fertility challenges. At 26 weeks pregnant during this interview, she embodies the truth that becoming the woman who succeeds must happen before the success arrives.
“After two egg retrievals and both times we got three embryos that made it to genetic testing. And then, each time they all came back, chromosomally abnormal... after not even a full menstrual cycle after Clear Passage therapy, I was pregnant naturally.”
— Catherine▶ 7:38
Yes, Catherine conceived naturally at 39 after two failed IVF cycles where all her embryos came back chromosomally abnormal. She also had endometriosis and kinked tubes that doctors said would make natural conception unlikely.
“I actually think that if I have a child, someone's gonna die. Like, I think that, and I don't think it consciously, but I feel it, and it's a fear.”
— Catherine▶ 16:15
Unconscious blocks can physically and emotionally prevent conception. Catherine discovered she believed 'you don't get to have everything you want' and feared that having a baby would cause something bad to happen, rooted in childhood trauma from her father's death.
“I don't care what he said, you know, I'm doing this and I really really wanna do it... after not even a full menstrual cycle after that, I was pregnant.”
— Catherine▶ 35:57
You need to give yourself a vote and trust your intuition, even when doctors disagree. Catherine's IVF doctor called Clear Passage therapy 'baloney,' but she trusted her gut that it was right for her and conceived naturally within one cycle of doing it.
“I took off from that was we did it in the fall, so it was probably November ish... And I took, like, the next four or five, six months off... I really started to shift from thinking I'm so behind... into, like, really taking back my power.”
— Catherine▶ 30:31
Strategic breaks for healing can be more powerful than rushing into the next cycle. Catherine took 4-5 months off after her second failed IVF to work with a nutritionist and do therapy, shifting from desperation to empowerment before conceiving naturally.
“I really kind of dropped that... really starting to ask myself, what do I want? What do I wanna do?... the more that I asserted myself, the more I saw that it worked.”
— Catherine▶ 37:51
People-pleasing prevents you from advocating for what you need on your fertility journey. Catherine learned to ask herself 'what do I want?' instead of worrying about everyone else's feelings, which made her more grounded and capable of believing in herself.
Catherine's process for identifying and healing the deep-seated beliefs that were preventing conception
Identify Your Saboteurs
Notice what negative voice tells you that you can't have what you want, like Catherine's 'you don't get to have everything you want' saboteur
Trace the Origin
Explore where these beliefs came from, often rooted in childhood experiences like Catherine's father's death creating fear that good things lead to loss
Challenge the Logic
Recognize that these beliefs don't make rational sense and question whether they're actually true
Get Professional Support
Work with a therapist to process childhood trauma and heal the emotional wounds feeding the blocks
Practice New Beliefs
Actively replace old stories with empowering ones like 'I'm meant to be a mom' and 'I can have everything I want'
You can be blocking your success by believing you don't deserve to have everything you want
Catherine discovered her saboteur belief 'you don't get to have everything you want' was blocking her conception because she feared if she had a baby, something would go wrong in her otherwise good life with her husband, job, and home.
Early life trauma can create unconscious blocks to fertility even decades later
Catherine realized her father's death when she was young created an unconscious fear that 'when everything is really good, something bad happens' and she actually believed if she had a child, someone would die.
Trusting your intuition over medical authority can be the key to success
Catherine's IVF doctor laughed and said Clear Passage therapy was 'baloney' that just takes people's money, but she trusted her intuition that it felt right for her body and did it anyway - conceiving naturally within one cycle afterward.
Having clarity about what you want makes you a more effective leader of your fertility journey
Catherine learned that when she got clear on what she wanted and could communicate it precisely to her medical team, it made their job easier and her more assertive in decision-making rather than spinning in fear.
You have to become the woman who succeeds before you succeed
Catherine had to believe and do all the internal work - addressing her blocks, trusting her intuition, setting boundaries - before she could see the external manifestation of natural conception after years of failed treatments.
Begging for your baby sends the wrong message to the universe
Catherine realized that from day one on her honeymoon, when she was praying 'please let me get pregnant' in Italian churches, she was telling the universe 'I don't have a baby' and creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of lack.
Taking time off from treatments to heal can be more powerful than rushing into the next cycle
Catherine took 4-5 months off after her second failed IVF cycle to do nutrition work with Andy Mayhew, HIIT exercise, and Clear Passage therapy, shifting from feeling 'behind the clock' to taking back her power.
Learning to say what you want instead of people-pleasing is crucial for fertility success
Catherine was a pleaser who always thought about everyone else before herself, but learned to ask 'Catherine, what do you want?' in simple decisions like coffee with friends, making her more grounded and capable of believing in herself.
The universe will conspire to give you what you truly want when you're aligned
When Catherine's IVF clinic made a blood work error that delayed her cycle, she realized it was perfect timing to do Clear Passage therapy first - exactly what she'd always wanted but couldn't schedule, leading to natural conception.
You can be blocking your success by believing you don't deserve to have everything you want
▶ 13:07Early life trauma can create unconscious blocks to fertility even decades later
▶ 16:15Trusting your intuition over medical authority can be the key to success
▶ 34:36Having clarity about what you want makes you a more effective leader of your fertility journey
▶ 39:02You have to become the woman who succeeds before you succeed
▶ 50:32Begging for your baby sends the wrong message to the universe
▶ 18:49Taking time off from treatments to heal can be more powerful than rushing into the next cycle
▶ 30:31Learning to say what you want instead of people-pleasing is crucial for fertility success
▶ 37:51The universe will conspire to give you what you truly want when you're aligned
▶ 43:59“If you have a good life already, wanting a baby too is greedy and something bad will happen”
CONSIDER: You can have everything you want - a loving marriage, great job, beautiful home AND a baby
“Always defer to medical experts and follow their advice exactly”
CONSIDER: You must give yourself a vote and trust your intuition even when doctors disagree
“Taking time off treatments means falling further behind and wasting precious time”
CONSIDER: Strategic breaks to heal and optimize can be the most powerful thing you do for your fertility
“You can't stay comfortable. You have to get uncomfortable and when you get uncomfortable, that's when you can break through those places in yourself that are holding you back.”
“I don't know when and I don't know how, but I know my baby is coming.”
“You have to become the woman who succeeds before you succeed.”
“I actually think that if I have a child, someone's gonna die. Like, I think that, and I don't think it consciously, but I feel it, and it's a fear.”
“I feel like I can be pregnant... I'm ready and it's going to happen when it happens, but I'm ready.”
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Frameworks & Methods
Where you spend your mental energy is what you manifest in your life - focusing on what you don't want brings more of what you don't want
Dr. Caroline spent mental energy worrying about needing IVF and having problems, and that's exactly what manifested in her life. When she shifted to focusing on success, she achieved two pregnancies.
Taking the 30,000 foot view and telling yourself your true story reveals stress patterns you couldn't see while living them
Dr. Caroline realized she went 'zero to sixty on stress' - starting to try while living on different coasts, during residency, with constant travel - but didn't recognize the stress in the moment.
Worthiness issues from earlier relationships directly impact fertility journey outcomes and decision-making patterns.
Liz spent 10 years in an unhealthy relationship telling herself she didn't want kids rather than facing the reality, then ghosted her future husband because she couldn't believe he liked her for who she was. These same worthiness patterns showed up as immediately running to IVF after one miscarriage at 41.
The way you do one thing is the way you do everything - relationship patterns will show up in your fertility journey.
Liz's pattern of feeling unworthy in her relationship (ghosting her husband because she couldn't believe he liked her) directly translated to feeling inadequate about conceiving and immediately seeking medical intervention after one miscarriage instead of trusting her body.
