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Erica

several years journey from US · Fearlessly Fertile Method

natural

Baby boy·

Endometriosis Autoimmune Issues

IVF Surgery

The Transformation

Before

Clinic hopping, constant IVF cycles, stressed and pressured

Key Shift

Took a year break from treatments, focused on mental health and diet, adopted 'it's gonna happen' mindset

After

Relaxed, confident, naturally conceived on vacation

Methods & Frameworks:

Mind-Body Connection Empowered Surrender

In summary: Erica's story demonstrates that natural conception with stage 4 endometriosis, conceived after being given 0% chance, and success after multiple ivf failures. despite Endometriosis and Autoimmune Issues after a several years journey.

Breakthroughs3

Men often use protective mechanisms during fertility journeys, saying they're okay without children when they actually deeply want them
Chris admitted he told himself and his wife 'if I have a kid, I have a kid. If I don't have a kid, I'm okay with it' but realized after conception 'I was just fooling myself. I wanted a kid' and had been protecting himself from disappointment.
▶ 6:47
Mind-Body Connection Taking Responsibility
Taking time away from fertility treatments and focusing on mental health can lead to natural conception
Chris and Erica took a year break from IVF clinics, focused on her mental health, diet, and reducing stress. During this break, they conceived naturally despite stage 4 endometriosis and being told they had zero percent chance of natural conception.
▶ 17:07
Endometriosis Mind-Body Connection Empowered Surrender Surrendering Control
Partner mindset shifts can be contagious and create alignment for conception
When Erica shifted to 'laissez faire' thinking and stopped pressuring herself, Chris became 'more tuned in' to the positive mindset. Her transformation from clinic hopping to 'it's gonna happen' was like 'a head transplant' that influenced his belief.
▶ 16:36
Mind-Body Connection Deciding to Believe

Teachings4

Clinic hopping and constant treatment cycles can create stress that inhibits conception
Chris described how they went to 4-5 different clinics, with scheduling ruining intimacy and creating work-like pressure. Once they stopped the clinic cycle and relaxed, they conceived naturally on vacation.
▶ 17:38
Empowered Surrender
Statistics and medical predictions can be completely wrong when mind and body align
Chris and Erica were given less than zero percent chance of natural conception by multiple IVF clinics due to her stage 4 endometriosis and autoimmune condition, yet they conceived naturally after mindset shifts.
▶ 28:29
Mind-Body Connection
Scheduled intimacy during fertility treatments destroys natural connection and romance
Chris explained how time scheduling for ovulation 'ruins things. It ruins intimacy' because 'you're on a time schedule of going to work, and you're like, we gotta do this now because I'm ovulating.'
▶ 17:38
Taking pressure off and living your life can create the conditions for natural conception
Chris advised to 'take the pressure off of ourselves' and 'just chill, take a minute, take a step back' rather than constantly going to clinics. He and Erica conceived naturally after adopting this approach.
▶ 23:18
Empowered Surrender

Reframes1

Financial concerns about fertility treatments stem from putting a price tag on your child
Chris realized after having his son that worrying about IVF costs was 'stupid to think about that way' because 'you're putting a price tag on your child' and the child will cost more than treatments anyway over 18 years.
▶ 21:24

Quotable Moments6

“I was like, if I have a kid, I have a kid. If I don't have a kid, I'm okay with it. But then once she got pregnant, I was like, I was just fooling myself. I wanted a kid.”
— Chris6:47
“when you're giving statistically odds of being, like, less than zero percent from most of these IVF clinics, And they're like, you don't have a chance of having a baby naturally, and then you do. It's just like, well, you're wrong.”
— Chris19:11
“the time scheduling on, like, trying naturally is it it ruins things. It ruins intimacy.”
— Chris17:38
“once you have your child you're like, that was stupid to talk like to think about that way. You know? Like Yeah. Well, I think that's I think you're raising another very interesting and astute point here is because we are very programmed to go into dollars and cents. Yeah. But we're talking about a human being.”
— Chris21:24
“don't get caught up in the numbers. I mean, be realistic of the situation. Right? The that was that was me. I was getting caught up in the numbers.”
— Chris22:27
“when your mind and body are working together, you can make the seemingly impossible possible.”
— Rosanne Austin29:00